Curse

Me NoFat · Jan 13, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned

Apology accepted :P And I make no point to say W/X is better Than W/ with Secondary. Also, you used Warrior, Monk, and Mesmer classes in that build :P

lol...yes I did..

I will correct the other post. I guess I just get so used to one build it is hard to change.

kc99 · Jan 13, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Battletorn i like the look of your build, its similar to what i'm using but where do you put your points?
I have just started and been using this:-

cyclone axe
executioners strike
glads defence
bonettis defence
sprint
live vicariuosly
mending
doylack signet.

I can take about 4 or 5 griffons on at a time any more and i'm finished and the mino's at elona's reach just destroy me! any help would be appreciated!

Me NoFat · Jan 13, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by kc99

Battletorn i like the look of your build, its similar to what i'm using but where do you put your points?
I have just started and been using this:-

cyclone axe
executioners strike
glads defence
bonettis defence
sprint
live vicariuosly
mending
doylack signet.

I can take about 4 or 5 griffons on at a time any more and i'm finished and the mino's at elona's reach just destroy me! any help would be appreciated!

First off you dont need to put anything into your Axe. Glads will do the killing. If you can meet your req for your axe after distributing attribute points where they count then by all means do so.

Healing = 8 (this gives you a +3 to mending
Tactics = 10-14
Strength = 10 - 14
Axe: get a low req and try to meet it. If you cant then dont worry about it. You are really only using cyclone for the healing/addrenline bonus. The added damage is nice. The name of the game is to keep a stance up all the time. Glads whenever it is ready and Bons the rest of the time. It is a constant cyclone/bons spam. It is better to fight more than less when using this build.

When setting up attributes remove all points from everything and check the skill bar to see what each skill is with 0 in it. Then add some to strength and see how those skills related to strength are effected. Do the same in all other areas. You would be surprised how many W/Mo use only mending and have a 9 in the attribute area. It is still only a +3 so they are wasting attribute points that are more effective elsewhere.

Drop Dolyak it is not needed. Glads and Bons Def are the only stances you need to survive. Dolyak is good for Hydra farming but that is another topic which already has some good threads.

kc99 · Jan 13, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32

Thanks menofat that could be a big help.

I have a req 9 axe (tanzits cleaver) full glads armour with knights boots and
helm . I use a sheild that gives +45 hp in a stance -2 dmg in a stance ( the green one can't remeber name) and superior axe rune major absorb and superior vigor. So my equipment is ok!

But what healing skills should i bring? is live vic ok or is there something better?

Me NoFat · Jan 13, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc99

Thanks menofat that could be a big help.

I have a req 9 axe (tanzits cleaver) full glads armour with knights boots and
helm . I use a sheild that gives +45 hp in a stance -2 dmg in a stance ( the green one can't remeber name) and superior axe rune major absorb and superior vigor. So my equipment is ok!

But what healing skills should i bring? is live vic ok or is there something better?

Live Vic and mending are all you need in healing. In fact once you get good with keeping a stance up all the time you will find that that is overkill. You don't actually need mending IMO.

Yolanda Kai · Jan 13, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

In my experience Mending is often useful as a crutch/safety net/insurance policy/"insert euphemism here". It's cheap and there when you need it, and just maybe it'll save your butt one day

Young Hero · Jan 13, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

^Mending is also good cause it stays on and doesn't hurt anything.Plus when weapons REQ you being enchanted-mend yourself

Battle Torn · Jan 13, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

here are my attributes

healing:8 for 3 mending
smite:5 left over attributes
strength:12 for chance of criticals
axe:12 for cyclone up to 47dmg per hit
tactics:13 for glads def 31 each block

trust me you need strength and axe to be quick and I use all sup runes..my hp is 350

every cyclone you want to hit as many criticals as you can and you take out the mobs with your second glads def. I think this build is pretty common ,but not many people using this attribute allocation. all you have to do is attack the monster with most hp and dwindle all the enemies down at the same level. this way your allways hitting the maximum enemies each cyclone as your not killing one at a time for maximum effect.

wisper me in game we can compare builds

here is pic of 6 mob farming. there are about 24 enemies here although you cant see em all cos they merge into each other. u can tell by the number of hits on my cyclone although it ant accurate cos it went off the screen.

dimirpaw · Jan 23, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Well I have been using your build for a week now, and it rules! I made a small video. Only shows 2 groups since I was being hit I couldnt run and risk rockshots.

The codec was a bumber since I havnt made a movie in years and had to use some defult thing, along with DivX. The music is off of Metal Gear Soild 2: Substance. It's not of great quilty because of my Codec and Mid File.

I got a better codec now, but this is the video with the old one. Nothing speical, just shows this build doesn't stink.

Stats are,
15 AXE
15 Tact
5 STR

http://files.filefront.com/GriffinFa.../fileinfo.html

Gravewalker · Jan 23, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

where do i get glads?

kc99 · Jan 23, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Gravewalker

where do i get glads?

You cap it from the warrior boss at the end of the dragons lair mission (the one immediately after ascension) Facet of strength his name is.

And make sure your party knows your capping it before they go through the portal!

Knight of Honor · Jan 23, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

first off i got this build from someone else forgot his name but i think this is the best solo farming build for warriors

here r the wpn shield i use and all the other stuff

here is small group of griffs

here is a larger group this time minotaurs

u can do 20+ monsters with this buildbut takes alot of argo and to argo them

all you do first is cast Live Vicariously and Balthazars Spirit
second when u get your group agroed cast Dolyak Signet then Vigorous Spirit then Cyclone Axe then Watch Yourself then Defy Pain then Healing Breeze if u need it The thing to remember is to always keep defy pain watch yourself vigorous spirit on and dolyak signet when it recharges and if u want always keep healing breeze i do it helps alot in big group

Knight of Honor · Jan 23, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

first off i got this build from someone else forgot his name but i think this is the best solo farming build for warriors

here r the wpn shield i use and all the other stuff

here is small group of griffs

here is a larger group this time minotaurs

u can do 20+ monsters with this buildbut takes alot of argo and to argo them

all you do first is cast Live Vicariously and Balthazars Spirit
second when u get your group agroed cast Dolyak Signet then Vigorous Spirit then Cyclone Axe then Watch Yourself then Defy Pain then Healing Breeze if u need it The thing to remember is to always keep defy pain watch yourself vigorous spirit on and dolyak signet when it recharges and if u want always keep healing breeze i do it helps alot in big group

Knight of Honor · Jan 23, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

first off i got this build from someone else forgot his name but i think this is the best solo farming build for warriors

here r the wpn shield i use and all the other stuff

here is small group of griffs

here is a larger group this time minotaurs

u can do 20+ monsters with this buildbut takes alot of argo and to argo them

all you do first is cast Live Vicariously and Balthazars Spirit
second when u get your group agroed cast Dolyak Signet then Vigorous Spirit then Cyclone Axe then Watch Yourself then Defy Pain then Healing Breeze if u need it The thing to remember is to always keep defy pain watch yourself vigorous spirit on and dolyak signet when it recharges and if u want always keep healing breeze i do it helps alot in big group

Knight of Honor · Jan 23, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24

first off i got this build from someone else forgot his name but i think this is the best solo farming build for warriors

here r the wpn shield i use and all the other stuff

here is small group of griffs

here is a larger group this time minotaurs

u can do 20+ monsters with this buildbut takes alot of argo and to argo them

all you do first is cast Live Vicariously and Balthazars Spirit
second when u get your group agroed cast Dolyak Signet then Vigorous Spirit then Cyclone Axe then Watch Yourself then Defy Pain then Healing Breeze if u need it The thing to remember is to always keep defy pain watch yourself vigorous spirit on and dolyak signet when it recharges and if u want always keep healing breeze i do it helps alot in big group

Knight of Honor · Jan 23, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

lol srry 4 times the post lol guess i pressed the submit button way to much and also comp was lagging srry again lol

Freezyguy · Jan 24, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

My W/Mo build for mino and grif farming is:

cyclone axe
bonnettis defense
gladiators defense [E]
live vicariously
vigourous spirit
balthazar's spirit

You can add healing signet or healing breeze if your having trouble with your hp. I also used sprint to make the run go faster.

I suggest having any level of glads armor, as the energy is very helpful. I used this build to make all the money I needed to get a set of droks gladiators armor.

Obviuosly you will need an axe, but what is stats are really dont matter. Having +duration enchating really doesn't matter since you will be using stances and vigorous spirits duration is as long as gladitors defense's cooldown is, but if you use healing breeze it might be a good idea. +hp and +armor is good as well. Sheild doesn't really matter either but having +hp on stance or enchant is good and -dmg on enchant or stance is also helpful.

Thats pretty much all you need, just pump your tactics to the max and then split your axe mastery and healing up evenly. You can handle any amount of griffons and minos and rockshots all at the same time. Just cast balthazars as soon as you enter the area, then cast live vicarously. Run around aggroing everything until you you have enough, then put up gladiators defense. While it is up cast vigourous spirit and spam cyclone axe, once gladiators defense ends just put up bonnetti's defense. Depending on how many enemies are attacking you, you can just cast cyclone axe and put up bonnetti's defense after every strike (only works with like 6+ enemies). About now your vigours spirit is about to end, so put up glads defense and recast it. Just keep this cycle going untill everything is dead. I used this outside augury rock and I just ran past the minos to the griffons and took em all in two groups. Just stay away from the bosses beacuse their healing spells make them too powerful to kill with this build.

killyall · Jan 25, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Guys why make it so complicated? Here is a build I use which wipes them all out fast, and my hp doesnt go below 300... I have LA glads set with only one rune a SUP tactics and one run of Major Tactics which can be bought for 100. And i NEVER die, the reason is this build that was made for me and i tweaked, it can basicly be done with any type of armor as logn as u have timing.

Bonneti's defsne
Cyclone Axe
Gladiators Defense
"Watch yourself!" - No need for 150k armor with thios skill...
Vigorous Spirit
Healing Breeze
Live Vicariousy
Mending.

Id make a video if someone told me how to... But here's the basic outline.

Since you have a lack of armour (no droks, or 15k glads armour) you need to be taking as little hits as possible. Stances IS your friend. You ALWAYS have to have ALL your stances up. Now, when you start off Use mending, then wait untill your energy is at 20 again use Live Vicarousity. Go run run turn left run get 3 groups on you, wat 2 seconds then use gladiators defense, use Vig spirit and cyclone axe in less than 3 seconds. Wait untill Gladiators defense is ion for 5 more seconds and then put up bonneti's defense, let ur enertgy charge to full use h.breeze, watch yourself, cyclone axe, bonneti's defense, All of that in less than 2 seconds or you're DEAD. Then while healing breeze is on then just use cyclone axe-bonnetis-watch yourself-cyclone axe-bonnetis. Keeo using untill glads defense recharges and then recast your healing breeze and vigorous spirit. Again and again untill they all die ^^ This take time to master. Here is a screenshot.

EDIT: PICTURE IS HUGGEEE

Order Of Thy Sword · Jan 25, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Uh just FYI, A superior tactics rune and a major tactic rune DO NOT STACK

you are needlessly losing 50 health points.

Knight of Honor · Jan 25, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

and your sayin our builds r complicated look at your within 5 seconds do this and then do this in 2 sec then if not your dead to much work